Comments for elearnspace http://www.elearnspace.org/blog learning, networks, knowledge, technology, community Sat, 4 Feb 2012 22:56:23 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 Comment on I need some help by Nicola Avery http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/27/i-need-some-help/comment-page-1/#comment-80375 Nicola Avery Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:56:23 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5465#comment-80375 These are some thoughts from a friend who is active in various open source communities, esp maker / hardware ones "I'm not sure if it's a win or a lose but I'm aggrieved at having to pay for software and at locked-down hardware. More than happy to pay (or contribute in other ways) for things that I use that are useful. But *I* decide how much it is worth. ... down to choice. I can chose to service my car myself or to pay someone else if I cannot be bothered. I could create.... my own apps for my Android 'phone, but could I for an iPhone?" These are some thoughts from a friend who is active in various open source communities, esp maker / hardware ones
“I’m not sure if it’s a win or a lose but I’m aggrieved at having to pay for software and at locked-down hardware. More than happy to pay (or contribute in other ways) for things that I use that are useful. But *I* decide how much it is worth. … down to choice. I can chose to service my car myself or to pay someone else if I cannot be bothered. I could create…. my own apps for my Android ‘phone, but could I for an iPhone?”

]]> Comment on I need some help by brainysmurf http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/27/i-need-some-help/comment-page-1/#comment-80369 brainysmurf Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:13:58 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5465#comment-80369 I echo Mario's comments about paying it forward, a principle that I have used extensively in tandem with setting my default to 'share'. I am humbled by the volume and quality of the resources that others share with me (particularly through my personal learning network and moocs) and I try to honour their contributions by offering my resources more openly as well (HootSuite, Diigo, blogging, Twitter, FaceBook are all recently examples for me in the past few months). Thanks for asking and best of luck in Edmonton! :) I echo Mario’s comments about paying it forward, a principle that I have used extensively in tandem with setting my default to ‘share’. I am humbled by the volume and quality of the resources that others share with me (particularly through my personal learning network and moocs) and I try to honour their contributions by offering my resources more openly as well (HootSuite, Diigo, blogging, Twitter, FaceBook are all recently examples for me in the past few months). Thanks for asking and best of luck in Edmonton! :)

]]> Comment on I need some help by Robin Heyden http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/27/i-need-some-help/comment-page-1/#comment-80362 Robin Heyden Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:38:13 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5465#comment-80362 I have one thought to share on this, George, which may well be a minority opinion. While we have all certainly benefitted from Open Source, I think it's important to remember that "Open" doesn't necessarily mean that the resource appeared without cost. I've been working on the development of some Open Source higher ed text materials and,despite the fact that the eventual products will be free and available for remixing and customization, it took many wo(man) hours to create them. Writing, editing, reviewing, illustrating, accuracy checking all takes thought, expertise, and time. Our culture equates value with money spent - I hope we don't let our good fortune with open source materials blind us to the hard work required to create them. I have one thought to share on this, George, which may well be a minority opinion. While we have all certainly benefitted from Open Source, I think it’s important to remember that “Open” doesn’t necessarily mean that the resource appeared without cost. I’ve been working on the development of some Open Source higher ed text materials and,despite the fact that the eventual products will be free and available for remixing and customization, it took many wo(man) hours to create them. Writing, editing, reviewing, illustrating, accuracy checking all takes thought, expertise, and time. Our culture equates value with money spent – I hope we don’t let our good fortune with open source materials blind us to the hard work required to create them.

]]> Comment on I need some help by Mario Hargianto http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/27/i-need-some-help/comment-page-1/#comment-80359 Mario Hargianto Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:16:40 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5465#comment-80359 George, encounter with and touching Open Source Culture (software: as a programmer and user) makes me more humane. My heart, love, and mind, all as one, becomes more open and wider for humanity and life. My heart was touched many times by the works of Open Source Friends. They "PAY IT FORWARD" (remember: the film "Pay It Forward"). They have contributed a lot to me for my works and many of my other life activities (hobbies, entertainment, recreation, etc.). Therefore, I was moved to "PAY IT FORWARD" to HUMANITY by: 1) revealing and presenting many articles of my private research results for public through my sites 2) providing people some free personal services. All of those are what I have gained through being open and participating in open culture. What have I lost through being open? Nothing! But, yes! I lost much of my egoism. That is just advantage and goodness again for me. Truly, I lost nothing because I have considered as proportionally and realistically as possible what and which to open for public. From all of those, I learn that being open to others (humanely, positively, and existentially) includes "two in one": "being given" and "giving". That is a human essential. Certainly both must done wisely and proportionally as we (our spiritual beings) still live in limited world: in cosmic reality. A Threat to Open Source Culture may be A Threat to Basic Humanity Values (Openness, Love, Giving, Help, etc.) but be Advantage For EGOISTIC Individualism-Liberalism-Capitalism. Thank you, George, for your sharing. You are so open and humble. George, encounter with and touching Open Source Culture (software: as a programmer and user) makes me more humane. My heart, love, and mind, all as one, becomes more open and wider for humanity and life. My heart was touched many times by the works of Open Source Friends. They “PAY IT FORWARD” (remember: the film “Pay It Forward”). They have contributed a lot to me for my works and many of my other life activities (hobbies, entertainment, recreation, etc.). Therefore, I was moved to “PAY IT FORWARD” to HUMANITY by: 1) revealing and presenting many articles of my private research results for public through my sites 2) providing people some free personal services. All of those are what I have gained through being open and participating in open culture.

What have I lost through being open? Nothing! But, yes! I lost much of my egoism. That is just advantage and goodness again for me. Truly, I lost nothing because I have considered as proportionally and realistically as possible what and which to open for public.
From all of those, I learn that being open to others (humanely, positively, and existentially) includes “two in one”: “being given” and “giving”. That is a human essential. Certainly both must done wisely and proportionally as we (our spiritual beings) still live in limited world: in cosmic reality.

A Threat to Open Source Culture may be A Threat to Basic Humanity Values (Openness, Love, Giving, Help, etc.) but be Advantage For EGOISTIC Individualism-Liberalism-Capitalism.

Thank you, George, for your sharing. You are so open and humble.

]]> Comment on “I can’t teach at Stanford again” by Joe McCarthy http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/23/i-cant-teach-at-stanford-again/comment-page-1/#comment-80349 Joe McCarthy Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:41:39 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5462#comment-80349 I'm a non-tenure track lecturer in a computer science program and recently looked into the <a href="http://codeyear.com/" rel="nofollow">Code Year project</a> in which 360,000+ people have signed up to learn how to program in weekly online lessons. I was browsing around in the forum sections and see much evidence there of what you describe here as "large-scale teaching and personalized, social, participative learning". BTW, I looked up the Stanford University Faculty Handbook section on <a href="http://facultyhandbook.stanford.edu/ch2.html#tit" rel="nofollow">"Titles and Ranks"</a> and "Durations" for non-tenure line, and it appears that a Research Professor has an appointment that is renewable up to a 6 year period, so it would appear that Thrun gave up a level of job security somewhat below tenure. I’m a non-tenure track lecturer in a computer science program and recently looked into the Code Year project in which 360,000+ people have signed up to learn how to program in weekly online lessons. I was browsing around in the forum sections and see much evidence there of what you describe here as “large-scale teaching and personalized, social, participative learning”.

BTW, I looked up the Stanford University Faculty Handbook section on “Titles and Ranks” and “Durations” for non-tenure line, and it appears that a Research Professor has an appointment that is renewable up to a 6 year period, so it would appear that Thrun gave up a level of job security somewhat below tenure.

]]> Comment on “I can’t teach at Stanford again” by gsiemens http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/23/i-cant-teach-at-stanford-again/comment-page-1/#comment-80347 gsiemens Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:31:28 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5462#comment-80347 I'm not sure about tenure - the articles does state that "He’s given up his tenure at Stanford". But I can't confirm that personally.. I’m not sure about tenure – the articles does state that “He’s given up his tenure at Stanford”. But I can’t confirm that personally..

]]> Comment on “I can’t teach at Stanford again” by Leo I. http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/23/i-cant-teach-at-stanford-again/comment-page-1/#comment-80346 Leo I. Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:30:16 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5462#comment-80346 Are you sure that Thrun had tenure at Stanford? He had an appointment as "research professor" which, if I am not mistaken, is not on the tenure track. Are you sure that Thrun had tenure at Stanford? He had an appointment as “research professor” which, if I am not mistaken, is not on the tenure track.

]]> Comment on “I can’t teach at Stanford again” by Ana Cristina Pratas http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/23/i-cant-teach-at-stanford-again/comment-page-1/#comment-80345 Ana Cristina Pratas Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:16:18 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5462#comment-80345 Hi George, You speak from an educator's point of view (which I agree entirely with); from a learner's point of view, I wonder if I will ever go back to doctorial studies after learning/participating on MOOCs. Despite struggling with time to participate more fully on the current Change#11, I have learnt more, have been more inspired and intellectually engaged than I ever was on the doctorate program I was on. Hi George,

You speak from an educator’s point of view (which I agree entirely with); from a learner’s point of view, I wonder if I will ever go back to doctorial studies after learning/participating on MOOCs. Despite struggling with time to participate more fully on the current Change#11, I have learnt more, have been more inspired and intellectually engaged than I ever was on the doctorate program I was on.

]]> Comment on Online University Education in Canada by Lisa Durff http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2012/01/21/online-university-education-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-80339 Lisa Durff Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:06:26 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5457#comment-80339 In your opinion, which technological tools best facilitate online students in building knowledge, camaderie with learning colleagues, and collaborative projects? In your opinion, which technological tools best facilitate online students in building knowledge, camaderie with learning colleagues, and collaborative projects?

]]> Comment on Right to know versus the nature of digital information by Martin http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2011/12/27/right-to-know-versus-the-nature-of-digital-information/comment-page-1/#comment-80317 Martin Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:52:13 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=5451#comment-80317 The question should be preceeded by a different one: if the atom bomb scientists felt bad for releasing the geenie, and knowing well, that once out it cannot be put back into the bottle. The modern scientists, like those engineering a new lethal form of bird flu, should be asked: WHY? whats the point of that research, other than creating a weapon that will be used, sooner or later, as digital data is never secure. Also, who funded that research and why? Do the sponsors know? Do they approve? The question should be preceeded by a different one: if the atom bomb scientists felt bad for releasing the geenie, and knowing well, that once out it cannot be put back into the bottle.

The modern scientists, like those engineering a new lethal form of bird flu, should be asked: WHY? whats the point of that research, other than creating a weapon that will be used, sooner or later, as digital data is never secure. Also, who funded that research and why? Do the sponsors know? Do they approve?

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