Comments on: Measurement of Openness in Education Systems http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/ learning, networks, knowledge, technology, community Tue, 7 Sep 2010 19:59:45 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: psychederic http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-35500 psychederic Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:18:41 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-35500 Transparency should be considered now as a lower level of openness : NOW. THis is like the concept of "democracy" : and democraty : republic, parlement. The word are dangerous : the simple word : are ideology : and has you may have noticed : ideology give a society that is far from an open system. (read Georg Lukács) Transparency should be considered now as a lower level of openness : NOW.

THis is like the concept of “democracy” : and democraty : republic, parlement.

The word are dangerous : the simple word : are ideology : and has you may have noticed : ideology give a society that is far from an open system. (read Georg Lukács)

]]> By: Measuring (and forging a path to) openness | George Veletsianos http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-35394 Measuring (and forging a path to) openness | George Veletsianos Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:04:45 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-35394 [...] December 31st, 2009 // sharing George posted a note on elearnspace blog on developing a Measurement of Openness in Education Systems (MOES) to raise awareness and draw attention to openess, while at the same time providing a measure that [...] [...] December 31st, 2009 // sharing George posted a note on elearnspace blog on developing a Measurement of Openness in Education Systems (MOES) to raise awareness and draw attention to openess, while at the same time providing a measure that [...]

]]> By: Joseph Thibault http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-33675 Joseph Thibault Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:52:46 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-33675 I think that the discussion really needs to parse content from tools. I say this because the content can be totally open, while tools may be closed (making content closed). For example, CMU has the OLI (https://oli.web.cmu.edu) which is "open" but the courses, more or less are closed to educators (and some even have prices to get your own copy). While the content is open (I can link to it easily and embed it all somewhere else using a more open LMS) the tool is, in effect, closed. Does that make sense? I like your list, I think it's a proper start, but before we make a nice rubric I think we should differentiate the various parts (and content/tools may not be all the parts) that can be 'open'. I think that the discussion really needs to parse content from tools. I say this because the content can be totally open, while tools may be closed (making content closed).

For example, CMU has the OLI (https://oli.web.cmu.edu) which is “open” but the courses, more or less are closed to educators (and some even have prices to get your own copy). While the content is open (I can link to it easily and embed it all somewhere else using a more open LMS) the tool is, in effect, closed.

Does that make sense? I like your list, I think it’s a proper start, but before we make a nice rubric I think we should differentiate the various parts (and content/tools may not be all the parts) that can be ‘open’.

]]> By: Measuring Openness « http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-33662 Measuring Openness « Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:35:42 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-33662 [...] 4, 2010 · Leave a Comment George Siemens, perhaps as a result of recent discussions, has posted on measuring openness in higher education. [...] [...] 4, 2010 · Leave a Comment George Siemens, perhaps as a result of recent discussions, has posted on measuring openness in higher education. [...]

]]> By: Sarah Stewart http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-33605 Sarah Stewart Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:59:25 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-33605 Hi everyone, I have been interested in this conversation because I am looking to "evaluate" or "measure" the outcomes of an open course I have been involved with over the last three year - "Facilitating Online": http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Facilitating_Online - and thinking about how I can do it. Working for an academic organisation I have to justify the time I spend on the course, and feed back to my managers how I see things working out in the future. Hi everyone, I have been interested in this conversation because I am looking to “evaluate” or “measure” the outcomes of an open course I have been involved with over the last three year – “Facilitating Online”: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Facilitating_Online – and thinking about how I can do it.

Working for an academic organisation I have to justify the time I spend on the course, and feed back to my managers how I see things working out in the future.

]]> By: Kevin Donovan http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-33556 Kevin Donovan Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:40:51 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-33556 Hey George - I'm a member of Students for Free Culture which is a group that works for the public interest in intellectual property and information policy. We are currently working on something very similar which we have named the Open Education Report Cards (part of the Epen Education Campaign) - http://wiki.freeculture.org/Open_University_Report_Cards We, too, believe that measuring educational openness can provide an important resource for those of us interested in promoting the trend. We've got some good momentum and are actively seeking partners, so it would be great to get in touch. Hey George -

I’m a member of Students for Free Culture which is a group that works for the public interest in intellectual property and information policy.

We are currently working on something very similar which we have named the Open Education Report Cards (part of the Epen Education Campaign) – http://wiki.freeculture.org/Open_University_Report_Cards

We, too, believe that measuring educational openness can provide an important resource for those of us interested in promoting the trend. We’ve got some good momentum and are actively seeking partners, so it would be great to get in touch.

]]> By: Jay Cross http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-33448 Jay Cross Fri, 01 Jan 2010 05:27:56 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-33448 I'm wondering if a description of "closed" wouldn't help clarify things here. Like formal and informal learning, things are rarely 100% black or white. Assessing where openness or closedness falls on a continuum enables you to describe shades of gray. I’m wondering if a description of “closed” wouldn’t help clarify things here.

Like formal and informal learning, things are rarely 100% black or white. Assessing where openness or closedness falls on a continuum enables you to describe shades of gray.

]]> By: George Veletsianos http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-33411 George Veletsianos Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:33:28 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-33411 Great comments George! Posted a note here: http://www.veletsianos.com/2009/12/31/measuring-and-forging-a-path-to-openness/ Great comments George! Posted a note here: http://www.veletsianos.com/2009/12/31/measuring-and-forging-a-path-to-openness/

]]> By: John Pallister http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/12/30/measurement-of-open-education-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-33395 John Pallister Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:18:44 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=4532#comment-33395 Hi again - could I suggest the inclusion of something about whether or not, in addition to content, some ' learning menus' / 'plans'/ curriculum maps are offered/made available? John Hi again – could I suggest the inclusion of something about whether or not, in addition to content, some ‘ learning menus’ / ‘plans’/ curriculum maps are offered/made available?

John

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