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	<title>Comments on: Scaling Mt. Idiocy</title>
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		<title>By: Norcross Schools</title>
		<link>http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/09/23/scaling-mt-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-28700</link>
		<dc:creator>Norcross Schools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Simon on Universities. They have also so diversified their focus they have created ever-expanding fringes of little societal benefit. A return to more core curriculum could benefit the whole, but then, where would the sociology professors go who teach &quot;Important Lesbians of the 20th Century?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Simon on Universities. They have also so diversified their focus they have created ever-expanding fringes of little societal benefit. A return to more core curriculum could benefit the whole, but then, where would the sociology professors go who teach &#8220;Important Lesbians of the 20th Century?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Bostock</title>
		<link>http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/09/23/scaling-mt-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-25262</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Bostock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that universities won&#039;t soon be obsolete. But it&#039;s useful to look at the bank analogy further.

Banks are institutions, true. But it&#039;s more accurate to say they ARE the system rather than a part of it. Our system is built on banks, it&#039;s kind of the definition of capitalism.

Universities just aren&#039;t in the same league. There aren&#039;t any developed countries without banks. But Switzerland, for example, does pretty well with a relatively small number of people going to university.

It&#039;s ridiculous to expect Higher Education to become obsolete. But I&#039;d question whether we need universities in their current form. Like banks, they weren&#039;t formed in an industrial era mindset either, but got industrialsed - some of them kicking and screaming - into their current incoherent form. They ARE too bloated - who needs &#039;graduates&#039; in golf, arts management or [insert name of weak course in sensationalis manner]? 

Universities doing what most of us imagine them to do (repositories of learning, basic research, supportive nurseries of ideas) will never be obsolete. But universities doing what many/most of them actually do - we could lose that in a heartbeat. There would be ripples but they would provide as many opportunities as negatively unintended consequences.

They provide four basic services: academic community, teaching, research and accreditation. Only two of those need to be done in a university setting. The teaching could be done anywhere - and better, in the UK at least. UK lecturers (and I suspect in much of the world) may be Subject Matter Experts but their teaching is abysmal. And accreditation? I question the very principle of an institution providing teaching AND accreditation.

Not obsolete, no. But ripe for some Schumpeterian disruptive innovation, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that universities won&#8217;t soon be obsolete. But it&#8217;s useful to look at the bank analogy further.</p>
<p>Banks are institutions, true. But it&#8217;s more accurate to say they ARE the system rather than a part of it. Our system is built on banks, it&#8217;s kind of the definition of capitalism.</p>
<p>Universities just aren&#8217;t in the same league. There aren&#8217;t any developed countries without banks. But Switzerland, for example, does pretty well with a relatively small number of people going to university.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ridiculous to expect Higher Education to become obsolete. But I&#8217;d question whether we need universities in their current form. Like banks, they weren&#8217;t formed in an industrial era mindset either, but got industrialsed &#8211; some of them kicking and screaming &#8211; into their current incoherent form. They ARE too bloated &#8211; who needs &#8216;graduates&#8217; in golf, arts management or [insert name of weak course in sensationalis manner]? </p>
<p>Universities doing what most of us imagine them to do (repositories of learning, basic research, supportive nurseries of ideas) will never be obsolete. But universities doing what many/most of them actually do &#8211; we could lose that in a heartbeat. There would be ripples but they would provide as many opportunities as negatively unintended consequences.</p>
<p>They provide four basic services: academic community, teaching, research and accreditation. Only two of those need to be done in a university setting. The teaching could be done anywhere &#8211; and better, in the UK at least. UK lecturers (and I suspect in much of the world) may be Subject Matter Experts but their teaching is abysmal. And accreditation? I question the very principle of an institution providing teaching AND accreditation.</p>
<p>Not obsolete, no. But ripe for some Schumpeterian disruptive innovation, yes.</p>
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