Comments on: Information (sensemaking) tools are pathetic http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/05/information-sensemaking-tools-are-pathetic/ learning, networks, knowledge, technology, community Sat, 4 Feb 2012 22:56:23 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Hugh Greenway http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/05/information-sensemaking-tools-are-pathetic/comment-page-1/#comment-8386 Hugh Greenway Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:49:26 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3830#comment-8386 George I haven't had much time to play with it but I think that www.debategraph.com could be an interesting tool. Effectively plugging a wiki functionality into a social network with the ability to position contradictory/complementary arguments and rate them. Certainly could be more efficient at extracting/evolving sense than an army of paid consultants. But it will depend on whether it is user friendly enough for people to actually use it. George
I haven’t had much time to play with it but I think that http://www.debategraph.com could be an interesting tool. Effectively plugging a wiki functionality into a social network with the ability to position contradictory/complementary arguments and rate them. Certainly could be more efficient at extracting/evolving sense than an army of paid consultants. But it will depend on whether it is user friendly enough for people to actually use it.

]]> By: Dave Snowden http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/05/information-sensemaking-tools-are-pathetic/comment-page-1/#comment-8131 Dave Snowden Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:24:21 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3830#comment-8131 You don't have to be certified to use SenseMaker™ just talk with Michael or me! You don’t have to be certified to use SenseMaker™ just talk with Michael or me!

]]> By: Martin http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/05/information-sensemaking-tools-are-pathetic/comment-page-1/#comment-8108 Martin Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:46:19 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3830#comment-8108 Is Cohere (http://cohere.open.ac.uk/) (I must confess to a vested interest, it's an OU app, but not developed by me) any good for what you have in mind? My colleague Simon Buckingham Shum (http://cohere.open.ac.uk/) is the brains behind it and sensemaking is his thang. Is Cohere (http://cohere.open.ac.uk/) (I must confess to a vested interest, it’s an OU app, but not developed by me) any good for what you have in mind?
My colleague Simon Buckingham Shum (http://cohere.open.ac.uk/) is the brains behind it and sensemaking is his thang.

]]> By: Donald H Taylor http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/05/information-sensemaking-tools-are-pathetic/comment-page-1/#comment-8103 Donald H Taylor Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:29:58 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3830#comment-8103 Hi George, To follow up from Gary, surely 'sensemaking' is what the brain does, and any tool can only display information according to the parameters we give it. Can any tool really make sense of things for us? Don Hi George,

To follow up from Gary, surely ‘sensemaking’ is what the brain does, and any tool can only display information according to the parameters we give it. Can any tool really make sense of things for us?

Don

]]> By: Gary Lewis http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/05/information-sensemaking-tools-are-pathetic/comment-page-1/#comment-8061 Gary Lewis Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:19:46 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3830#comment-8061 "Where are the tools that help us to make sense of distributed (fragmented) information from multiple sources and interactions with many different people, networks, and organizations?" Can you give an example of something that you'd like done that you cannot do presently? Seems like maybe the human brain is the best tool for the task you mention above. It's incredibly difficult to even combine structured data from multiple sources and not shoot yourself in the foot doing it (ie, make the combined data set useless or flat-out wrong). But maybe I'm misunderstanding what you intended. Gary “Where are the tools that help us to make sense of distributed (fragmented) information from multiple sources and interactions with many different people, networks, and organizations?”

Can you give an example of something that you’d like done that you cannot do presently? Seems like maybe the human brain is the best tool for the task you mention above.

It’s incredibly difficult to even combine structured data from multiple sources and not shoot yourself in the foot doing it (ie, make the combined data set useless or flat-out wrong).

But maybe I’m misunderstanding what you intended.

Gary

]]> By: glen http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/03/05/information-sensemaking-tools-are-pathetic/comment-page-1/#comment-8059 glen Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:14:00 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3830#comment-8059 SenseMaker does look very interesting. Looks like it might be based on the same principle as the grounded theory method. GTM is a systematic process for gathering data from multiple sources, and analyzing for patterns using inductive and abductive reasoning. The process generates middle-level, working theories (aka pre-hypothesis) that then can be tested by other qualitative or quantitative approaches. It would be wonderful if you could convince the SenseMaker outfit to offer an online seminar. SenseMaker does look very interesting.
Looks like it might be based on the same principle as the grounded theory method. GTM is a systematic process for gathering data from multiple sources, and analyzing for patterns using inductive and abductive reasoning. The process generates middle-level, working theories (aka pre-hypothesis) that then can be tested by other qualitative or quantitative approaches.
It would be wonderful if you could convince the SenseMaker outfit to offer an online seminar.

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