Comments on: Year of the cloud http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/ learning, networks, knowledge, technology, community Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:13:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: » OLDaily por Stephen Downes, Enero 2, 2009 TIC, E/A, PER…: http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6745 » OLDaily por Stephen Downes, Enero 2, 2009 TIC, E/A, PER…: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:06:17 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-6745 [...] Tony Hirst se fija en los dispositivos para Internet. George Siemens, learnspace, January 2, 2009 [Enlace] [Etiquetas: Conectivismo, [...] [...] Tony Hirst se fija en los dispositivos para Internet. George Siemens, learnspace, January 2, 2009 [Enlace] [Etiquetas: Conectivismo, [...]

]]> By: Technology Creates Feasibility Spaces for Social Practice. « Hans de Zwart: Technology as a Solution… http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-4466 Technology Creates Feasibility Spaces for Social Practice. « Hans de Zwart: Technology as a Solution… Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:15:55 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-4466 [...] So, I know for a fact that cloud computing technology will create new feasibility spaces for social practice and I am sure that this will include learning. The question is not whether cloud computing will change the way learn, the question should be how will it change the way we learn. In that regard, I think George Siemens has started asking the right questions. [...] [...] So, I know for a fact that cloud computing technology will create new feasibility spaces for social practice and I am sure that this will include learning. The question is not whether cloud computing will change the way learn, the question should be how will it change the way we learn. In that regard, I think George Siemens has started asking the right questions. [...]

]]> By: Anna http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-4343 Anna Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:41:20 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-4343 Although the transition may not be a fast or simple one for many people, more and more information is being entrusted to the cloud. And besides the daunting (or in some cases, not worthwhile) task of transferring thousands of documents to that big server in the sky, there's also the concern: Is the cloud safe? This is a debate we've been engaged in at Coggno.com in recent months. According to Ray Ozzie, Microsoft's chief software architect, data you entrust to cloud storage is safe and your own. In other words, though enormous companies like Google and Microsoft may provide the storage, they promise that none of the data is used by anyone. But what the other sense of "safety"--the confidence that nothing will happen to your data? Personal computers can break, external hard drives can be lost, but at least the security of hard drive information is in our hands. Let's say ten years down the road practically no one is keeping their data on their hard drives. What if something were to happen to the cloud data centers? Isn't cloud computing actually giving a world of power to just a few big companies? Although the transition may not be a fast or simple one for many people, more and more information is being entrusted to the cloud. And besides the daunting (or in some cases, not worthwhile) task of transferring thousands of documents to that big server in the sky, there’s also the concern: Is the cloud safe?

This is a debate we’ve been engaged in at Coggno.com in recent months.

According to Ray Ozzie, Microsoft’s chief software architect, data you entrust to cloud storage is safe and your own. In other words, though enormous companies like Google and Microsoft may provide the storage, they promise that none of the data is used by anyone.

But what the other sense of “safety”–the confidence that nothing will happen to your data? Personal computers can break, external hard drives can be lost, but at least the security of hard drive information is in our hands. Let’s say ten years down the road practically no one is keeping their data on their hard drives. What if something were to happen to the cloud data centers? Isn’t cloud computing actually giving a world of power to just a few big companies?

]]> By: Brian Mulligan http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-4257 Brian Mulligan Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:09:49 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-4257 I have more or less completed my move to the cloud except for two applications: 1) PowerPoint - the online presentation systems do not seem to be as powerful, 2)Freemind - cheap (free) mindmapping software - is there anything similar online. I have more or less completed my move to the cloud except for two applications: 1) PowerPoint – the online presentation systems do not seem to be as powerful, 2)Freemind – cheap (free) mindmapping software – is there anything similar online.

]]> By: Frank Carver’s Punch Barrel / Tactics, Strategy and SOA in the cloud - conflicting views http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-4100 Frank Carver’s Punch Barrel / Tactics, Strategy and SOA in the cloud - conflicting views Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:59:52 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-4100 [...] Year of the cloud [...] [...] Year of the cloud [...]

]]> By: So The Wind Won’t Blow It All Away… « Mr W’s Blogging Great Thing http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-4045 So The Wind Won’t Blow It All Away… « Mr W’s Blogging Great Thing Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:37:08 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-4045 [...] makes me all the more impressed at George Siemen’s decision to spend the year in the cloud to see if it’s possible… me… I’m away to buy a pack of blank DVDs so I can [...] [...] makes me all the more impressed at George Siemen’s decision to spend the year in the cloud to see if it’s possible… me… I’m away to buy a pack of blank DVDs so I can [...]

]]> By: Benjamin http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-4030 Benjamin Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:32:50 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-4030 I like the concept of cloud computing but what's the criteria or rationale for "going 100% neutral"? My concern is that after investing time uploading documents, some other service will come along and I'll want to change all my documents over to a newer, better service. And then there's the issue of sharing documents. For example, for Google apps, I had to get a Google account and then ask others to get an account in order to share documents, presentations, etc. By itself, not a really big deal but if another service comes along that's better, then all this changes. I understand changing technology is part of life, but with cloud computing it seems that more effort now will go into shifting work if one chooses to change providers. There's also the issue of data security/loss/access. As for loss, I guess backups could be done but that's just added work. As far as access, this would totally depend on the quality of the connection. But for me, there's still something about leaving 100% of my work online (let's say after a period of two or three years) that makes me feel a little ill at ease - I'm backing up well over 10,000 working files at a time. Granted, I could clean up a lot of those files, but they are an accumulation of years of work that just seem safer residing on my computer. Perhaps teachers who work in an office with a computer, then go to a lab or some other room with a computer for a class might see some benefit, but it seems that if a teacher is using a computer this much, they probably are also using or editing audio, video, and pictures and probably receiving, editing, and returning documents to students. The latter can be facilitated by sharing documents but then students all must sign up to the app. (as mentioned above). I'm still not seeing a scenario that justifies going 100% online, but I am curious. I like the concept of cloud computing but what’s the criteria or rationale for “going 100% neutral”? My concern is that after investing time uploading documents, some other service will come along and I’ll want to change all my documents over to a newer, better service. And then there’s the issue of sharing documents. For example, for Google apps, I had to get a Google account and then ask others to get an account in order to share documents, presentations, etc. By itself, not a really big deal but if another service comes along that’s better, then all this changes. I understand changing technology is part of life, but with cloud computing it seems that more effort now will go into shifting work if one chooses to change providers.
There’s also the issue of data security/loss/access. As for loss, I guess backups could be done but that’s just added work. As far as access, this would totally depend on the quality of the connection. But for me, there’s still something about leaving 100% of my work online (let’s say after a period of two or three years) that makes me feel a little ill at ease – I’m backing up well over 10,000 working files at a time. Granted, I could clean up a lot of those files, but they are an accumulation of years of work that just seem safer residing on my computer.
Perhaps teachers who work in an office with a computer, then go to a lab or some other room with a computer for a class might see some benefit, but it seems that if a teacher is using a computer this much, they probably are also using or editing audio, video, and pictures and probably receiving, editing, and returning documents to students. The latter can be facilitated by sharing documents but then students all must sign up to the app. (as mentioned above). I’m still not seeing a scenario that justifies going 100% online, but I am curious.

]]> By: Tim Topper http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2009/01/02/year-of-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-4025 Tim Topper Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:55:05 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3714#comment-4025 It's not too hard to go device neutral for access to information: if it's web accessible you can access it on many devices. Content capture and creation is another matter. It's harder to replace cameras, large screens, customized text editors, programming environments and editing suites. It’s not too hard to go device neutral for access to information: if it’s web accessible you can access it on many devices. Content capture and creation is another matter. It’s harder to replace cameras, large screens, customized text editors, programming environments and editing suites.

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