Comments on: The Pirate Hoax http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2008/12/24/the-pirate-hoax/ learning, networks, knowledge, technology, community Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The New-New Literacy | All The Young (Edu)Punks http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2008/12/24/the-pirate-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-3986 The New-New Literacy | All The Young (Edu)Punks Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:11:24 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3698#comment-3986 [...] and I think that it might be a bit more coherent to do so here. George wrote a little bit about the Pirate Hoax and it’s implications for what digital literacy means. I think his commentary is dead on, in [...] [...] and I think that it might be a bit more coherent to do so here. George wrote a little bit about the Pirate Hoax and it’s implications for what digital literacy means. I think his commentary is dead on, in [...]

]]> By: Hugh Greenway http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2008/12/24/the-pirate-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-3983 Hugh Greenway Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:42:25 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3698#comment-3983 George, Thanks, as ever, for making me think. I dont think there is much to get exercised about in the hoax itself. Wikepedia will recover. Your last line really got me going however as I think we are becoming increasingly credulous and do not question where we should. Explored a little further in my blog... http://reedlearning.blogspot.com/2009/01/heart-of-learning-is-question.html George,
Thanks, as ever, for making me think. I dont think there is much to get exercised about in the hoax itself. Wikepedia will recover.

Your last line really got me going however as I think we are becoming increasingly credulous and do not question where we should. Explored a little further in my blog…

http://reedlearning.blogspot.com/2009/01/heart-of-learning-is-question.html

]]> By: Ken Allan http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2008/12/24/the-pirate-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-3625 Ken Allan Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:40:56 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3698#comment-3625 Kia ora George It's a pity that blogs, Wikipedia or even YouTube should suffer collateral damage from the hoaxers. Unfortunately mud sticks. You said that the issue "highlights the importance for everyone, even so-called experts, to be constantly vigilant about all information sources". I fully agree. Isn't awareness of information sources what we as citizens should always be aware of, what parents should warn their children about, what teachers should teach in schools, and what authorities (experts included) should be aware of? The sophistication of technology, developed over the centuries, has created an environment that dulls our natural human instinct of survival - to recognise impostors. Now more than ever, we have to use our higher gifts of intelligence and analysis to be aware of the possibilities of being conned and to detect the baloney for our own protection. Best wishes from Middle-earth Kia ora George

It’s a pity that blogs, Wikipedia or even YouTube should suffer collateral damage from the hoaxers. Unfortunately mud sticks.

You said that the issue “highlights the importance for everyone, even so-called experts, to be constantly vigilant about all information sources”. I fully agree.

Isn’t awareness of information sources what we as citizens should always be aware of, what parents should warn their children about, what teachers should teach in schools, and what authorities (experts included) should be aware of?

The sophistication of technology, developed over the centuries, has created an environment that dulls our natural human instinct of survival – to recognise impostors. Now more than ever, we have to use our higher gifts of intelligence and analysis to be aware of the possibilities of being conned and to detect the baloney for our own protection.

Best wishes
from Middle-earth

]]> By: glen http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2008/12/24/the-pirate-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-3561 glen Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:02:51 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3698#comment-3561 I agree that everyone should be constantly vigilant about all information sources. But that has always been the case. Frauds like this have been perpetuated forever, the web-based, multimedia element is just the latest. There are lots of stories about fraudulent science using peer-reviewed journals and the most respected "gatekeepers" . Big tobacco, the pharmaceutical industry, revisionist historians just to name a few. Interesting to note how, 400 years after the fact, the Catholic church is trying to rehabilitate its image with respect to its treatment of Galileo. Peer-review is no guarantee against fraud. You are right that information now must be validated at the point of consumption, including information that comes from the most authoritative of sources. (yes, even eLearnspace) The George Mason class sounds brilliant but the brouhaha calls for a critical think. A case of a virus escaping from the research lab? attention seeking prof? manipulation by the Chronicle of Higher Education? hmmm I agree that everyone should be constantly vigilant about all information sources. But that has always been the case. Frauds like this have been perpetuated forever, the web-based, multimedia element is just the latest. There are lots of stories about fraudulent science using peer-reviewed journals and the most respected “gatekeepers” . Big tobacco, the pharmaceutical industry, revisionist historians just to name a few.

Interesting to note how, 400 years after the fact, the Catholic church is trying to rehabilitate its image with respect to its treatment of Galileo.

Peer-review is no guarantee against fraud. You are right that information now must be validated at the point of consumption, including information that comes from the most authoritative of sources. (yes, even eLearnspace)

The George Mason class sounds brilliant but the brouhaha calls for a critical think. A case of a virus escaping from the research lab? attention seeking prof? manipulation by the Chronicle of Higher Education? hmmm

]]> By: Alan Levine http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2008/12/24/the-pirate-hoax/comment-page-1/#comment-3557 Alan Levine Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:24:33 +0000 http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/?p=3698#comment-3557 It's going to be interesting to watch as reactions wave out on this one. In embracing open content, IMHO many of us are naively ignoring the yin-yang balance; openness provides a door for doing just as much Bad as Good. Do we not dare do Good for fear of Bad? Or does playing it out where all can see provide a means to learn to deal with Bad? It’s going to be interesting to watch as reactions wave out on this one. In embracing open content, IMHO many of us are naively ignoring the yin-yang balance; openness provides a door for doing just as much Bad as Good. Do we not dare do Good for fear of Bad? Or does playing it out where all can see provide a means to learn to deal with Bad?

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